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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyTue 23 Jan 2007 - 16:21

et hop des nouvelles fraîches de nos amis de Dubai...

DIC still in pole position for Reds takeover
Last updated at 09:24am on 23rd January 2007

Despite reports of a new counter-bid to buy Liverpool from George Gillett, the owner of the Montreal Canadiens ice hockey team, sources at Dubai International Capital insist that their move to buy the club is on course.

DIC are currently involved in due diligence and sources claim that a formal offer to buy chairman David Moores' 51 per cent holding could be made via the Stock Exchange in a fortnight.

PS: pourquoi tant de haines

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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyTue 23 Jan 2007 - 22:09

Quels sont les montants proposés déjà pour le rachat de LFC ?
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyWed 24 Jan 2007 - 0:02

600 m€ en gros je crois, 120 pour la dette 450 en gros pour le stade mais ce ne sont que des chiffres vu que rien n'est signé. Enfin je suis pas sûr de " mes " chiffres... pfff
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyWed 24 Jan 2007 - 14:19

Ok donc ça veut dire qu'il n'y aurait pas (dans un 1er temps) d'argent pour faire de folies mais juste 120 pour éponger et 450 pour reconstruire un stade ? C'est bien ça en gros ? Si c'est le cas, on peut se rassurer en se disant qu'on est pas prêt d'avoir une politique à la Chelsea, à moins que DIC décide dans la foulée dans l'achat de gros joueurs.
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyWed 24 Jan 2007 - 14:21

C'est bien ça, Vince. Il a été précisé très clairement que Rafa n'aurait pas forcément une plus grosse enveloppe pour les transferts, sauf éventuellement pour faire un effort sur un ou deux joueurs que Rafa voudrait absolument.
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyWed 24 Jan 2007 - 14:22

jlb21 wrote:
C'est bien ça, Vince. Il a été précisé très clairement que Rafa n'aurait pas forcément une plus grosse enveloppe pour les transferts, sauf éventuellement pour faire un effort sur un ou deux joueurs que Rafa voudrait absolument.

Oui mais alors dans ce cas quelle serait la politique de DIC à long terme ?
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyWed 24 Jan 2007 - 14:25

Faire en sorte de maintenir les finances saines, gagner du fric grâce aux produits dérivés et au nouveau stade, maintenir l'équipe à un niveau suffisant pour être en mesure de jouer le titre tous les ans, mais sans tomber dans des travers genre Chelsea ou Real Madrid, car ce n'est pas et n'a jamais été la philosophie du club.
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyWed 24 Jan 2007 - 14:29

jlb21 wrote:
Faire en sorte de maintenir les finances saines, gagner du fric grâce aux produits dérivés et au nouveau stade, maintenir l'équipe à un niveau suffisant pour être en mesure de jouer le titre tous les ans, mais sans tomber dans des travers genre Chelsea ou Real Madrid, car ce n'est pas et n'a jamais été la philosophie du club.

En espérant quand même que le business n'empiète pas trop sur le sportif; quitte à avoir du fric autant faire en sorte de l'investir dans le domaine du sportif d'abord parce que là en fait rien ne va changer. AArfffff j'aimerais tellement qu'on gagne ce titre qui nous chappe depuis 17 ans love
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyWed 24 Jan 2007 - 14:31

jlb21 wrote:
Faire en sorte de maintenir les finances saines, gagner du fric grâce aux produits dérivés et au nouveau stade, maintenir l'équipe à un niveau suffisant pour être en mesure de jouer le titre tous les ans, mais sans tomber dans des travers genre Chelsea ou Real Madrid, car ce n'est pas et n'a jamais été la philosophie du club.

Copie conforme de ce qui se passe chez nos amis les canonniers en qq sorte avec tjrs cette volonté de sortir des joueurs de l'académie d'où ces investissements récents pour de jeunes players.
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyThu 25 Jan 2007 - 13:53

Club takeover 'within weeks'Jan 25 2007
LIVERPOOL sources (Liverpool Daily Post) last night insisted that the takeover of the club by Dubai International Capital could be confirmed “within weeks,” despite counter-claims that American bidder George Gillett was about to start an examination of the club’s books.

And a successful deal with DIC would mean that work on the club’s new stadium in Stanley Park could start in March, with a two-year completion date.

Gillett, the owner of Montreal Canadiens ice hockey club, who has already had a bid to buy the club rejected by David Moores, has written to the Liverpool chairman offering an increased deal.

It was announced on national TV last night that Gillett had got per-mission to start a process of due diligence.

However, Liverpool sources distanced themselves from such a move, and claim they are soldiering on with the conclusion of negotiations with DIC, who are intent on completing their £450m move to gain control of the Anfield club.
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyMon 29 Jan 2007 - 12:03

Story continues...RAS

Liverpool break silence on move by American tycoon Jan 27 2007

LIVERPOOL Football Club last night confirmed they had received an approach from American businessman George Gillett.

The club said the approach “may or may not lead to an offer” for the club, raising the prospect that a rival bid to that put forward by Dubai International Capital may materialise.

Liverpool were formally approached by Gillett on Monday, but until now the Anfield club has remained silent.

DIC, owned by the rulers of the Emirate, are understood to remain in pole position to buy the Reds.

The latest move was announced to the Stock Exchange to comply with the Takeover Code and in response to growing speculation.

The statement to shareholders read: “Following the recent press speculation, and to comply with our obligations under the Takeover Code, Liverpool Football Club today confirms that it has received an approach from George Gillett which may or may not lead to an offer.

“Shareholders will be kept informed as appropriate.”

Liverpool sources this week insisted the takeover of the club by DIC could be confirmed “within weeks”, despite reports of Gillett's interest.

And a successful deal with DIC would mean that work on the club’s new stadium in Stanley Park could start in March, with a two-year completion date.

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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyWed 31 Jan 2007 - 19:02

..../...
EXCLUSIVE by David Prentice, Liverpool Echo

LIVERPOOL FC today confirmed that American businessman George Gillett is a serious rival to Dubai International Capital's bid for control of the club.

The US sports tycoon has astonished Anfield officials by completing his due diligence procedure in three days.

By confirming that a shared stadium with Everton has never been on his agenda, by agreeing to personally underwrite the new stadium funding, and by making a firm commitment to investing in future transfers, he has now moved alongside DIC as a realistic future owner.

Up until 48 hours ago, chairman David Moores was focused solely on a takeover by DIC, the investment arm of the Makhtoum family.

But he has come under increasing pressure from minor shareholders to think about the American's proposals, which are worth £500 a share more than DIC's.

Moores would net £8m more from the American's offer, but sources at Anfield say the Reds chairman only wants to make the best decision for the club.

.../...

Suite au prochain numéro

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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyWed 31 Jan 2007 - 19:20

Moores torn between Gillett and DIC offers

George Gillett's bid to take over Liverpool Football Club is being taken very seriously indeed, according to reports today.

At first it was felt that Gillett's attempts to buy out the club had come too late, after DIC had been given permission before Christmas to exclusively look at the club's accounts. But as soon as the period of exclusivity was over, Gillett was also given permission to look at the books - and completed due diligence in just three days.

One major concern for the board and for the fans was that Gillett was rumoured to favour a shared stadium with neighbours Everton - but he's said to have denied this, instead agreeing to personally underwrite the funding for the new stadium on Stanley Park.

The report, in the Liverpool Echo, says that as recently as 48 hours ago the club chairman David Moores was still 100% committed to the takeover proposals by DIC. But pressure from "minor shareholders" - almost certainly Granada - forced him to have a look at the proposals from Gillett.

Moores would be better off financially if he accepted the bid from Gillett rather than the one from DIC, but his main concern remains to ensure the club is passed into the best hands possible. The Echo say that Moores was impressed with the speed with which Gillett carried out his due diligence, when compared to the slower pace from DIC, who took a month to look at the books and still haven't actually put a formal offer in. Last night's board meeting in London was called to vote on the DIC proposals, but documentation was still not in place.

With the new stadium's building desperately needing to begin in March, Moores will need to make up his mind quickly - and is expected to do so by the end of the week.


Je vous l'avais dit Gillette la deuxième lame
NB: voilà voilà voilà
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyWed 31 Jan 2007 - 19:22

tout s'accélère ou bien...

DIC withdraw takeover bid for Liverpool

The Dubai International Capital investment group have pulled out of a proposed takeover of Liverpool.

The group, owned by the Dubai government, had been examining the club’s books with a view to a £156m buy-out.

And their decision to withdraw follows the failure of the Liverpool board to accept the offer last night, following a rival bid by American billionaire George Gillett.

A statement read: "Dubai International Capital LLC today announces that it has decided to end negotiations with Liverpool FC & Athletic Grounds plc about a possible investment in the club.

“Having completed due diligence, DIC submitted a comprehensive offer to the Liverpool board.

“The offer had been accepted in principle by majority shareholder David Moores. It appears that the Liverpool board and the majority shareholder David Moores were unable to approve these terms in order to allow DIC to make a formal offer to all shareholders.”
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyWed 31 Jan 2007 - 19:37

l'info est confirmé par tous les grands quotidiens Anglais!!!

"Dubai International Capital LLC today announces that it has decided to end negotiations with Liverpool FC & Athletic Grounds plc about a possible investment in the club," a statement read.

The decision comes after Liverpool's board failed to accept the Dubai group's bid on Tuesday evening.
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyWed 31 Jan 2007 - 19:42

J'aime pas çà, Gilett ressemble à Glazer sur certains points...
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyWed 31 Jan 2007 - 19:44

DIC CEO: "Disappointed" to pull out of Reds bid

Samir Al Ansari, CEO of Dubai International Capital, released the following statement: “We are very disappointed to be making this announcement this afternoon. DIC are a serious investor with considerable resources. At the same time we are supporters of the game, and of the club. Liverpool’s investment requirements have been well publicised and after a huge amount of work we proposed a deal that would provide the club with the funds it needs both on and off the pitch. We were also prepared to offer shareholders a significant premium on the market price of the shares, however we will not overpay for assets.”
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyWed 31 Jan 2007 - 19:53

Effectivement, tous les médias confirment. Notamment la BBC, qui n'a pas l'habitude de balancer n'importe quoi à la légère :

Site BBC

Mais je ne suis pas certain qu'il faille de réjouir du renoncement des gens de Dubaï...
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyWed 31 Jan 2007 - 19:55

jlb21 wrote:
Effectivement, tous les médias confirment. Notamment la BBC, qui n'a pas l'habitude de balancer n'importe quoi à la légère :

Site BBC

Mais je ne suis pas certain qu'il faille de réjouir du renoncement des gens de Dubaï...

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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyWed 31 Jan 2007 - 19:57

jlb21 wrote:
Mais je ne suis pas certain qu'il faille de réjouir du renoncement des gens de Dubaï...

Je suis entièrement d'accord avec ton mon Gianluca... L'impression que j'ai est que la famille Moores et les principaux actionnaires étaient pour ce projet...et pourtant on parle d'une minorité qui aurait réussi à inverser la tendance ??
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyWed 31 Jan 2007 - 19:58

C'est bien Gilett qui voulait qu'on joue dans le même stade qu'Everton ? qui voulait prendre part à la direction du club ou j'ai rêve ? hum
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natoleza wrote:
C'est bien Gilett qui voulait qu'on joue dans le même stade qu'Everton ? qui voulait prendre part à la direction du club ou j'ai rêve ? hum

Il semble dire (voir plus haut) que le partage du stade n'est pas dans son programme ??
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyWed 31 Jan 2007 - 20:19

ça discute bcp sur les forums du LFc en ce moment comme vous pouvez l'imaginer

QQs brèves de comptoir vu ici et là
1 John 31/01/2007 16:58
So sad, with all the might of DIC, a powerful player with money to expand Liverpool into the powerhouse it can be. Gillet's offer is weak and is he going to do what the Glazers did at manchester united and till Liverpool with debt. I so hope DIC come back to the table.

2 Southman 31/01/2007 16:59
Absolutely gutted. I cannot believe that the Liverpool board have screwed this one up. Why with Liverpool does nothing a) ever go to plan and b) ever put us on an equal footing with the elite clubs. We are never in the race for quality signing whether they be young talent or old. We wont the Champ League with a poor team so that should show the board that the club has potential it just needs funding. Its greed on the boards side. THey have announced time and time again that this offer is miles ahead of the Gillet offer. Very upset.

3 JohnO 31/01/2007 17:01
Gutted!!
Sold for tuppence to another glazier!!
Mancs are gonna love this :-(

4 simon bedwell 31/01/2007 17:01
david moores should walk for this
im not happy at all.pure greed,
as for steven gerrard we can say good by
to him.very upset by this.
yours simon

5 Geoff 31/01/2007 17:01
Just read on Newsnow that Gillet has no intention of ground sharing with Bluenoses and he will personally underwrite the funding of the new stadium. Moores wanted to accept the bid but other members of the board said they wanted to look at Gillet as he is offering more money.

6 Graham S 31/01/2007 17:02
Without doubt this is nothing but greed,and nothing to do for the good of the club,this deal was okay yesterday but somehow rubbish today.Moores and Parry are making this club into a laughing stock,and it shows that he(Moores)will not relinquish his role without a fight.Yet again there will be a delay into the building of a new ground,this will set the club back,and a new ground is all it is wishful thinking

7 Boris Roberts Utah USA 31/01/2007 17:06
The Liverpool Board could not run a Pissup In a Brewery. All for another eight million? come on Moores you're a greedy SOB. He has no backbone if he has cowtowed to the lesser minions of so called shareholders. One of the seven deadly sins is Greed. I am totally disgusted with this whole affair. It is an outrage.

8 kenneth 31/01/2007 17:07
i am really amazed regarding the situation. I think the offer from Dubia was the best for the club they seem to know the traditions and overall the would have provided the cash needed to boost our squad!!! What happened i dont know all i know is that Mr Gillet offered more as per shared so Mr Moores will pocket 8M more. I hope that if they consider this offer it would be the best for the club and also the traditions will be followed. It would be utter madness and stupidity to have these opportunities and lose them. I hope that any decision from the shareholders will be the right one for everyone especially for our beloved team.
YNWA

9 Tom 31/01/2007 17:07
Moores and Parry have obviously spent a long time considering offers from Gillett and DIC, but without anyone else having seen the details of the offers for themselves, I'm not sure how any member of the public could make a well informed judgement on how this may or may not be detrimental to Liverpool.

10 Finnish Red 31/01/2007 17:10
I am so angry. Yeasterday when I read that they wanted more time I thought what are they doing. I hoped that they wouldn't mess this up doing that. Oh but they did. Big time. I can't believe it. How is it possible that they f*** up everything every time when the final step should be taken? And this Gillet... His Montreal Canadiens is pretty mediocore. There is salary cap in the NHL nowadays but before that he didn't really spend money on big name players.

11 Gary 31/01/2007 17:11
Rick Parry has done a great job bringing this investment option to the table and he must feel as gutted as the rest of us about this collapse along with David Moores who i don't blame for this one bit. I find it unbelievable and slightly hypocritical that the one main criteria stated by the board was that the new investors should respect the importance of the club over money making when the majority of the other board members are clearly looking at the £'s rather than the future success of the club

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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 4 EmptyWed 31 Jan 2007 - 20:24

C'est vraiment une mauvaise nouvelle; d'abord parce que je vais devoir changer d'avatar pfff mais surtout car l'atmosphère doit être extrêmement pessimiste et risque d'avoir un impact négatif sur l'équipe.
Maintenant que Gillett est tout seul il va pouvoir régner en maître dans la négociation.
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A moins que Morgan, sur le coup, n'en profite pour faire une nouvelle offre ?
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