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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyTue 5 Dec 2006 - 22:16

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C'est un croque-mort ?
Ou le frère de Lincoln ??
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyTue 5 Dec 2006 - 22:37

lol
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyTue 5 Dec 2006 - 22:41

En tout cas, il tiens son chèquier dans sa main droite lol rire
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyWed 6 Dec 2006 - 0:07

Too sad pfff
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyWed 6 Dec 2006 - 2:23

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C'est un croque-mort ?
Ou le frère de Lincoln ??
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyWed 6 Dec 2006 - 3:00

greg wrote:
Ozzy64 wrote:
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C'est un croque-mort ?
Ou le frère de Lincoln ??
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T'es fâché mon Greg ou bien ??
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyWed 6 Dec 2006 - 22:36

Billionnaire ?!!!!
C'est une plaisanterie !?
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyThu 7 Dec 2006 - 19:07

Baros wrote:
Billionnaire ?!!!!
C'est une plaisanterie !?

Billionnaire=milliardaire en anglais.
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyFri 8 Dec 2006 - 15:08

mmmouais.....bientôt un FC anfield pour jouer contre le fc united of manchester? hum
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyFri 8 Dec 2006 - 18:21

c'était sur rawk.

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Occasionally Rawk gets contacts from the press. Most of the time it's the usual begging letter from national sportswriters asking how many L's in Benitez or what shape is a football etc. However occasionally we get to hear from journalists who don't normally cover the world of LFC. The email below was received yesterday and was so significant that we've decided to publish it, to respect the confidence of the journalist concerned we've witheld his name.


WAXWORK NEWS (INCORPORATING WAXIFORM SIMULACRUM MONTHLY)

Content Embargoed as per agreement with Madame Tussaud's.

TUSSAUDS APLAUDS, ANSARI HAD ANSWER TO DUMMY DEFICIT.

When Dubai International Capital acquired the prestigious 'Tussauds Group' there was much talk of how they would overcome the difficulties posed by the rising cost of raw materials in the waxwork industry. As regular readers of this column will appreciate Tussauds were struggling to finance the manufacture of the latest celebrities leading to the unfortunate incident where a recycled 'Fern Britton' waxwork was revealed to be composed of Rusty Lee's chest and Christopher Biggins buttocks. For a high profile operation such as Tussauds such coverage can be highly damaging and it was clear that any new owner would have to ensure new supplies were secured if the business were to prosper.

DIC have long been known as shrewd investors but even seasoned industry watchers have been impressed by the coup they announced last week when their interest in purchasing Premier League Football Club, Liverpool FC was revealed. At a stroke it appears Sameer al-Ansari, the innovative head of DIC has solved the supply difficulties which plagued Tussauds previous management.

Industry analyst Guy Matthews explained how the deal will work:

'Ansari knew that Tussauds has to have fresh supplies for the business to work. A recent visit to the home of Liverpool Football Club gave him the answers he needed. Approximately 13,000 wax dummies are located in the Main stand alone. They're not of the highest quality, we estimate about 2,400 won't pass the 15 metre believability test but even those should be suitable for use as daytime television presenters. DIC haven't begun analysing the contents of the other stands but judging by the deathly pallor, stony silence and stone like rigidity on display we can safely assume that Madame Tussauds will be able to fulfill their dummy requirements for the immediate future.'

Al-Ansari has so far made no comment about the deal. A smirking executive from Madame Tussauds would only confirm that they were in discussions with Earls Court and the Millennium Dome as part of 'long cherished' expansion plans.

When Waxwork News approached the Liverpool FC for comments concerning the links between Liverpool FC and Waxworks we were referred to their ticket office. Unfortunately we have yet to receive a response as this article goes to press.
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptySat 23 Dec 2006 - 21:32

oulalalalalalalalalalala.....yen a à lire là dedans.
euh alors moi suis pas trop au courant de ce qu'il s'est passé mais je suis fort dubitaif.
je respecte les opinions de chacun mais ça me parait fort louche cette histoire.
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyWed 27 Dec 2006 - 11:36

un article du Telegraph d'aujourd'hui. Et si ce qu'ils écrivent est exact, alors on peut se faire beaucoup beaucoup de soucis pour notre club, à tous les niveaux...

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Buyers plan to sell Liverpool in seven years

By Mihir Bose
Last Updated: 1:53am GMT 27/12/2006


Liverpool, who are being bought by an investment company effectively owned by the Dubai government, could be sold again in seven years' time, according to a confidential document seen by The Daily Telegraph.

The document also reveals that Dubai International Capital are planning to borrow up to £300 million to finance their £450m purchase of the club.

DIC see their investment in Liverpool as purely a business deal built round the new stadium Liverpool are planning at Stanley Park. When they sell in seven years' time they are hoping to make a huge profit, providing a return of around 25 per cent on their investment for every year of ownership. There appear to be no plans to invest in new players.

Furthermore, DIC will not be the sole owners of Liverpool, unlike Roman Abramovich at Chelsea, the Glazers at Manchester United and Randy Lerner at Aston Villa. Although their deal to buy Liverpool is not yet signed and sealed, they are already looking for other investors to join them in a partnership. I understand that 30 per cent of the 90 per cent stake DIC are bidding for is being offered to City investors.

The seven-page document, which outlines the investment rationale, has been circulated to major City investors to attract them to join the consortium.

DIC have said little about why they want to buy Liverpool, but with the company ultimately owned by the fabulously wealthy Al Maktoum family, who are the ruling family of Dubai, the purchase has been seen as Liverpool's equivalent of Abramovich arriving at Chelsea, the investor with deep pockets that all football clubs crave.

Indeed, that is the reason David Moores, the chairman of Liverpool, gave for choosing DIC over George Gillett, the American who owns the Montreal Canadiens ice hockey team and is very keen to buy Liverpool.

However, anyone reading the document can have no doubt that this is purely an investment decision. And with DIC seeking partners, there is also no knowing who else will be in the Liverpool boardroom.

The great investment opportunities that Liverpool provide, as DIC see it, are set out in a section entitled "The Opportunity". The document says: "Opportunities exist to boost returns by unlocking 'hidden' value. We believe there is potential for multiple arbitrage if real estate/leisure is developed on the current Anfield site. Such an investment would allow the Middle East region to leverage on a strong brand with an equally strong international fan base."

The document tells potential investors that over the next five years a return starting at 19.3 per cent could rise to 29 per cent in year five.

One of the most revealing insights is when the document talks of how the financing will be done. A whole page is devoted to it and shows that three banks – Bank of Ireland, RBS and Bank of America – have been approached, with Bank of America the favourite.

It is clear that the new stadium is at the heart of this deal. The budget for the stadium is £240m; Liverpool want a fixed-price contract like Wembley and want penalties of £950,000 per week if the contractor is late.

The DIC document notes that the stadium, which will seat 61,000, will cost less per seat than Arsenal's Emirates Stadium. The document also provides a wonderful insight into DIC's thinking but is very different from the fans' expectations about this purchase – and would have been very different from the purchase of the club by Gillett.
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyWed 27 Dec 2006 - 11:45

Dream is over ? blink
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyWed 27 Dec 2006 - 12:01

pfff pfff pleure pleure

Qui a dit qu'ils etaient biens ces pas content pas content

Au debut j'etait pas super chaud pour Gillett...mais la...Qu'il nous sauve!! ça peut etre pire que ça argh
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyWed 27 Dec 2006 - 12:07

Ca sent pas bon du tout cette histoire.Pas bon du tout...
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyWed 27 Dec 2006 - 22:17

Quote :
Liverpool racheté puis revendu ?


Selon le quotidien anglais Daily Telegraph, les investisseurs de Dubaï qui envisagent de racheter Liverpool, le feraient que dans un but purement spéculatif. Ces derniers envisagent de revendre le club avant 2014 une fois le nouveau stade construit. Ils espèrent faire une grosse plus-value à ce moment là précise le journal. Les investisseurs n'envisageraient pas d'acheter massivement de joueurs à l'image de ce que fait Abramovitch à Chelsea.
http://www.footanglais.com/


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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyThu 28 Dec 2006 - 0:50

Sur ce type de sujet, peut-on trouver de l'information fiable ?

En tout cas, ce serait intéressant d'avoir un article dans un canard économique sérieux.
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyThu 28 Dec 2006 - 8:45

Ca a eté dementi et Ils annoncent vouloir rester longtemps et meme recruter des Joueurs de classe.
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyThu 28 Dec 2006 - 10:51

source?
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyThu 28 Dec 2006 - 11:14

moi j'ai trouvé ca
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DUBAI INVESTORS DENY EXIT STRATEGY
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Dubai International Capital insist they have a long-term strategy in place for Liverpool including funds for new players.


DIC have claimed there is no way they would plot the sale of an asset they do not yet own after a newspaper report on Wednesday suggested they hope to sell the club in 2014.

But a DIC source last night assured Liverpool fans they would view the takeover as more than just a business deal and promised manager Rafael Benitez cash to rebuild the Reds squad.

They said: "What DIC is doing is planning to make sure that, if a deal is done, Liverpool has the best possible funding in place going forward under DIC stewardship.

"This is particularly important as we would need to get on with the stadium early in 2007 and it takes time to sort out the necessary financing.

"This is also important in terms of making sure cash is available for the ongoing strengthening of the playing squad.

"Should DIC acquire the club, Liverpool will be well run, both on and off the pitch, and we are currently laying the groundwork to ensure that will be the case."

But DIC officials have pointed out they are yet to successfully conclude their takeover of the club and that, as a result, talk of plans to sell it off for profit are premature.

The source added: "DIC has not yet formally made an offer, never mind completed a deal. Certainly there are no plans to exit an acquisition we have not even bought yet.

"It (DIC) is a very serious investor with considerable resources at its disposal and the ability to take a long-term view.

"Equally, we believe that we understand the responsibilities that come with owning Liverpool Football Club.

"DIC has made it clear that, should a deal be concluded, it would not interfere in the day-to-day running of the club."
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyThu 28 Dec 2006 - 20:33

Les sources tu sais c'est a peu pres Bbc sites anglais .........
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyFri 29 Dec 2006 - 12:14

On retrouve les mêmes infos confirmant leur investissement à long terme dans le L'Echo d'hier.
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyMon 1 Jan 2007 - 16:30

voici le point de vue de fyds,habitant de liverpool et fan ultime qui n'a pas raté une finale de LFC depuis 1965.

en gros,il est pour.

I've not heard any supporters who are unhappy with the proposed deal - just a few who are apprehensive about ANY deal, including if Jesus was to put in a proposal himself. The only person with a 'financial' interest in the club who seems unhappy is (surprise, surprise) Steve Morgan - and surely as to reasons why they are self evident by now as liberally espoused by his ..er..spouse, to wit 'You people would take money from anyone other than my Steve' (AGMs passim).

To most Liverpool supporters with half a brain, the score is clear - we need majorly huge investment of a takeover to compete at the highest level in the years ahead - the concern thereafter lay with whether such parties as may be interested in doing business with us would have respect for the fans, the traditions and social respects and ethos of the club and all that implies - what nationality they were was unimportant as frankly Englishmen with the cash required are thin on the ground in extremis. DIC have so far gone out of their way to point out this is a long-term project, and they are in full accord with the traditions and aforementioned ethos and that they see their role as making sure we have the necessary funds, infrastructure and clout to dine at the top table...what more they can do at this stage I don't know.

It is people not involved with the deal, not Liverpool fans or anyway connected to the club who are trying to muddy the waters - they are immaterial in the long run.
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyThu 4 Jan 2007 - 14:31

Trouvé sur le rumour mill de la bbc:
Liverpool will not have a big transfer kitty when the Dubai takeover goes through as the club will be mortgaged for £300m. (Daily Express)
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PostSubject: Re: dubai??   dubai?? - Page 2 EmptyMon 8 Jan 2007 - 23:16

Après avoir regardé hier le numéro de Capital à Dubai (ambiance spéciale "nouveaux richards"), on peut avoir quelques doutes sur la passion footballistique des investisseurs potentiels...
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