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Dubai Holdings agree Reds deal Sat, Dec 02 2006 11:52

Dubai Holdings has secured a deal in principle to invest in the Reds with Rafa Benitez set to receive significant transfer funds.
It is understood a deal was agreed late on Friday evening for the Middle Eastern investors to buy into the club although it is not yet clear if they have secured a controlling interest.

Reds' chief executive Rick Parry has been in negotiation with Dubai Holdings for two years and it is understood that the deal will release considerable funds for team strengthening and for the new stadium project.

Dubai Holdings, the Middle Eastern state's investment arm, looks to big global projects having recently secured an £800m purchase of Madame Tussaud's and the £675m buyout of Travelodge hotels.

They recognise Liverpool's incredible world-wide appeal and are said to be keen to put the club on a level financial footing with the likes of Chelsea and Real Madrid

une petite traduction rapide... pLeazze

voila j'ai trouvé sur eurosport en francais...

Le club le plus titré du football anglais, Liverpool, pourrait rapidement passer sous contrôle de financiers émiratis, indique lundi le Guardian.

Le président et actionnaire principal du club, David Moores, dont la famille a fait son entrée dans le capital du club dans les années 1950, a donné son aval pour consulter les comptes du club à Dubai International Capital (DIC), contrôlée par la famille al-Maktoum, qui gouverne la ville-émirat. Moores, qui détient 51% des actions du club, a revu à la baisse ses exigences, réclamant 450 millions de livres (environ 670 M EUR) pour ses parts, contre 620 millions de livres initialement (environ 920 M EUR).

Le club est en quête de 200 millions de livres pour bâtir un nouveau stade et est endetté à hauteur de 80 millions de livres. D'autres investisseurs sont intéressés, mais la préférence de Moores irait aux Emiratis. Le propriétaire de la franchise de Montréal du Championnat nord-américain de hockey-sur-glace, George Gillett, serait notamment sur les rangs, tout comme un magnat du BTP nord-irlandais, John Miskelly. Le Premier ministre thaïlandais renversé, Thaksin Shinawatra, a été un temps intéressé. Si la vente à DIC se confirmait, Liverpool serait le septième club à passer sous contrôle étranger après Chelsea, Manchester United, Fulham, Aston Villa, West Ham et Portsmouth.

en gros ils disent qu'on est en train de negocier avec des gars de dubai et qu'ils sont prets a donner des fonds tres importants a rafa pour les transferts.ca fait 2 ans que parry negocie avec eux pour qu'ils puissent investir dans le futur stade et pour augenter le capital de liverpool.isl ont recemment investis 800 millions de £ pour Mme Tussaud et 675 millions de £ pour Travelodge hotels.
en gros si c'ets eux qui reprennent on sera un nouveau Chelsea mais garderont ils les specificités de Liverpool qui en font un club a part?je peux pas dire.
si quelqu'un peut confirmer ma traduction car je suis pas sur d'avoir tout compris.

l'information est reprise par le liverpool echo, la BBC, sky etc.
Cette fois-ci ça semble sérieux.

et bah si ils donnent les moyens...tant mieux
mais attention il ne faut pas couper "l'esprit red" car ca ca vaut plus que tout l'argent du monde.

D'aprés ce qui est dit, Moores et Parry resteraient au club.
Et puis même si c'est une affaire d'argent, Moores et Parry ne laisseront pas n'importe quel milliardaire récupérer l'héritage des reds sans garantie.

M'sieur l'marquis wrote:

D'aprés ce qui est dit, Moores et Parry resteraient au club.
Et puis même si c'est une affaire d'argent, Moores et Parry ne laisseront pas n'importe quel milliardaire récupérer l'héritage des reds sans garantie.

il vaut mieux meme pour les investisseurs eux meme car les gens leur ferait comprendre je pense.

OUla le nouveau chelsea??
d'un coté financier c'est vraiment intéressant car la on pourra vraiment recruter, mais je suis sceptique a donner les clefs du club a un gars de dubai... enfin parry et moore savent ce qui font..

Moi je ne suis pas sur d'aimer cette nouvelle...ce sera la première fois dans l'histoire du club que des investiseurs venus de DUBAI prennent le controle de LIVERPOOL. Je ne suis pas sur que Shankly aurait aimé ça.
Quitte a avoir des fonds du mec d'Irlande du Nord.


Brrr...j'ai froid dans le dos tout d'un coup...

J'avoue que la perspective d'etre repris par le patron des Canadiens de Montréal me bottait un peu plus. Le sport est une activité à part des autres types d'investissements. Après, si Moores et Parry ont obtenu des garanties concernant l'état d'esprit que les investisseurs de Dubai veulent insuffler(ou conserver), faut voir.....

Attendons de voir qui gagnera finalement et les détails de l'affaire si cela se concrétise. Et Moores a toujours dit qu'il refusait de vendre à n'importe qui, d'une part, mais seulement à des gens en qui il aurait confiance en tant que Fan pour l'avenir du club (ce qui est déjà une garantie en soi, même si Moores peur se tromper), qu'il garderait un certain nombre de parts dans le club, assez pour conserver un contrôle en tous cas.
Donc, pas d'affolement prématuré. Wait & see.

Pour la première fois, le club admet être en négociation avec DIC (Dubai investissement) et explique qu'avant toutes choses, il avait recherché un partenaire (potentiel car rien n'est fait) qui en plus de capacités financières importantes, embrasserait aussi (et surtout) les valeurs et l'héritage du club.
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Liverpool Football Club today confirms that it has entered into a period of exclusive negotiations with Dubai International Capital ('DIC') about a possible investment in the club.
No deal has yet been agreed and the detail of any transaction which may or may not include a formal offer by DIC for Liverpool Football Club is still to be confirmed.

The Club aims to keep Liverpool shareholders and supporters fully informed and will make a further statement as soon as possible.

DIC is the international investment arm of Dubai Holding, which owns and manages a diversified portfolio of companies operating in the fields of leisure, healthcare, technology, finance, real estate, research, education, tourism, energy and communications. DIC has a strong track record in both the leisure sector and in the UK. In 2005, for example, it bought Tussauds, the largest operator of visitor attractions in Europe, for $1.5bn. It also owns the Travelodge hotel group. Its parent company owns various London hotels, including the Carlton Tower.

Rick Parry, Chief Executive of Liverpool, said: "This is the latest step on the road of finding the long-term investment that the Club needs. DIC is a potential investor with the resources and philosophy that we believe could make them an ideal partner. Already they have demonstrated a full understanding of, and respect for, the club’s heritage and values. We also believe they share our passion for success. In particular, DIC believes in investing in the businesses it acquires. This is very important in terms of the proposed new stadium, which is key to plans for the regeneration of the local community. On the pitch, Liverpool remains focused on winning and, here again, this is all about doing a deal that gives us the long-term resources to do that."

Ouais, effectivement je n'avais pas encore vu l'article sur le site offal. Là, ça paraît quand même très très sérieux avec Dubaï...
Parry dit qu'ils paraissent le partenaire idéal, qu'ils ont déjà fait leurs preuves, y compris en Angleterre, qu'ils partagent le même goût pour la victoire et aussi qu'ils ont pleinement montré qu'ils comprennent et respectent l'héritage et les valeurs du club. Enfin bon, ce que vient de dire notre Marquis.


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Liverpoolfc.tv 04 December 2006



Liverpool Football Club today confirms that it has entered into a period of exclusive negotiations with Dubai International Capital ('DIC') about a possible investment in the club.

No deal has yet been agreed and the detail of any transaction which may or may not include a formal offer by DIC for Liverpool Football Club is still to be confirmed.

The Club aims to keep Liverpool shareholders and supporters fully informed and will make a further statement as soon as possible.

DIC is the international investment arm of Dubai Holding, which owns and manages a diversified portfolio of companies operating in the fields of leisure, healthcare, technology, finance, real estate, research, education, tourism, energy and communications. DIC has a strong track record in both the leisure sector and in the UK. In 2005, for example, it bought Tussauds, the largest operator of visitor attractions in Europe, for $1.5bn. It also owns the Travelodge hotel group. Its parent company owns various London hotels, including the Carlton Tower.

Rick Parry, Chief Executive of Liverpool, said: "This is the latest step on the road of finding the long-term investment that the Club needs. DIC is a potential investor with the resources and philosophy that we believe could make them an ideal partner. Already they have demonstrated a full understanding of, and respect for, the club’s heritage and values. We also believe they share our passion for success. In particular, DIC believes in investing in the businesses it acquires. This is very important in terms of the proposed new stadium, which is key to plans for the regeneration of the local community. On the pitch, Liverpool remains focused on winning and, here again, this is all about doing a deal that gives us the long-term resources to do that."

Dealing Disclosure Requirements

Under the provisions of Rule 8.3 of the City Code on Takeovers and Mergers (the “Code”), if any person is, or becomes, “interested” (directly or indirectly) in 1% or more of any class of “relevant securities” of DIC or of Liverpool, all “dealings” in any “relevant securities” of that company (including by means of an option in respect of, or a derivative referenced to, any such “relevant securities”) must be publicly disclosed by no later than 3.30pm (London time) on the London business day following the date of the relevant transaction. This requirement will continue until the date on which the offer becomes, or is declared, unconditional as to acceptances, lapses or is otherwise withdrawn or on which the “offer period” otherwise ends. If two or more persons act together pursuant to an agreement or understanding, whether formal or informal, to acquire an “interest” in “relevant securities” of DIC or of Liverpool, they will be deemed to be a single person for the purpose of Rule 8.3.

Under the provisions of Rule 8.1 of the Code, all “dealings” in “relevant securities” of DIC or of Liverpool by Liverpool or by DIC or by any of their respective “associates”, must be disclosed by no later than 12.00 noon (London time) on the London business day following the date of the relevant transaction.

A disclosure table, giving details of the companies in whose “relevant securities” “dealings” should be disclosed, and the number of such securities in issue, can be found on the Takeover Panel’s website at www.thetakeoverpanel.org.uk.

“Interests in securities” arise, in summary, when a person has long economic exposure, whether conditional or absolute, to changes in the price of securities. In particular, a person will be treated as having an “interest” by virtue of the ownership or control of securities, or by virtue of any option in respect of, or derivative referenced to, securities. Terms in quotation marks are defined in the Code, which can also be found on the Panel’s website. If you are in any doubt as to whether or not you are required to disclose a “dealing” under Rule 8, you should consult the Panel.

Je les vois mal debarquer en disant " oui on vient pourrir votre club, le pourrir par le fric..."

Pour moi c'est une bien triste nouvelle...le club va perdre le peu d'ame qui lui restais, et devenir une machine a fric comme les autres( meme si ça l'est deja a moitie..)


Mon discours est bien pessimiste, mais faut pas se voiler la face, des milliardaires de Dubai ne vont pas injecter des milliards dans le club juste pour le plaisir...

C'est une des façons de voir les choses, et bien malin celui qui pourrait dire si ce n'est pas la bonne... J'espère seulement que non !

J'ai comme l'impression que dans l'histoire c'est LFC qui joue le rôle de celui qui ramasse la savonette.......j'espère me tromper

jlb21 wrote:

C'est une des façons de voir les choses, et bien malin celui qui pourrait dire si ce n'est pas la bonne... J'espère seulement que non !

J'espere me tromper aussi...
Mais c'est tellement rare

cheerman wrote:

Je les vois mal debarquer en disant " oui on vient pourrir votre club, le pourrir par le fric..."

Pour moi c'est une bien triste nouvelle...le club va perdre le peu d'ame qui lui restais, et devenir une machine a fric comme les autres( meme si ça l'est deja a moitie..)


Mon discours est bien pessimiste, mais faut pas se voiler la face, des milliardaires de Dubai ne vont pas injecter des milliards dans le club juste pour le plaisir...

En même temps si ce n'était que pour le fric le club aurait été vendu il y a 2 ans à l'ancien ministre indien.

jlb21 wrote:

qu'ils ont déjà fait leurs preuves, y compris en Angleterre

? Où ?

Pas dans le sport, mais ils ont racheté Mme Tussaud, la chaîne d'hôtels Travelodge, des hôtels à Londres...

Article de l'Echo d'aujourd'hui :

Quote :

The billionaire for whom anything is possible

Dec 5 2006

Tony Barrett finds out just who Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al-Maktoum is and why he wants to spend £450m to buy Liverpool FC

By Tony Barrett, Liverpool Echo



THERE are currently 793 billionaires in the world, according to international finance experts Forbes.

And Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al-Maktoum - "Sheikh Mo" to his friends - is, if you listen to those in the know, one of the best of them.

"He would probably be the shrewdest of the bunch," says Luisa Kroll, associate editor at Forbes magazine.

When you consider the "bunch" includes the likes of Microsoft founder Bill Gates and the Sultan of Brunei, that's not a bad testimonial to have on your CV.

Estimates of Maktoum's personal wealth are varied simply because so much of his money is tied up in major investments all over the globe, but Stan Lock, a stock trader for the investment management company Brewin Dolphin Securities, reckons he could "buy Liverpool with spare change".

Maktoum certainly makes his money work for him and Dubai Investment Capital, the overseas investment arm of Dubai Holdings, recently acquired the Tussauds Group for £800m and Travelodge for £675m.

His personal ambition, and the ambition of the Dubai government and the multitude of investment companies which he leads, is seemingly boundless.

"Under Sheikh Mohammed," says Khalaf Al Habtoor, a billionaire construction magnate whose firm helped build hotels, hospitals and airport facilities in Dubai, "anything is possible".

But the question is, why would he - or, at the very least, his associates - buy Liverpool Football Club?

"It is partly driven by the desire of companies like Dubai International Capital to broaden their international portfolio," says Professor Tom Cannon, the Merseyside-born Dean of London Business School.

"They are looking to build up a broad spread of investments in companies outside Dubai that are both stable and secure.

"Their ambition is huge. They have recently bought Tussauds and the London Eye and they even tried to buy a number of American ports, including Philadelphia, but that was blocked by the US Senate."

The man most closely connected with the bid to buy Liverpool is Sameer Al Ansari, a Reds fanatic who is also Chief Executive Officer of Dubai International Capital.

He has acted as the figurehead in the deal but business insiders believe the interest goes all the way back to Maktoum himself.

"Ansari is a key player in Maktoum's whole operation," says one. "He is very highly thought of, but it is highly unlikely that he would have completed a move of this scale without being given the go-ahead by Maktoum.

"You have to think of Dubai as a PLC which is ruled by a chief executive who gives orders to a board of hand-picked subordinates. They then implement policy without the need for approval from any elected body.

"Maktoum is the country's chief executive and he either owns or controls the companies that run almost everything of any significance."

Their plans for Liverpool FC are, as yet, unknown. Depending on who you speak to the proposed deal is either simply an investment or it is the starting point of an attempt to turn Liverpool FC into one of the biggest hitters in world football.

"I would be astonished if they ploughed significant amounts into squad rebuilding," says Prof Cannon. "It is more likely to be part of a portfolio building strategy."

But racehorse trainer Mick Quinn, a lifelong Liverpool fan, believes that, should he invest in the Reds, the Crown Prince of Dubai could have a similar effect on football.

"First and foremost, he is a winner," says Quinn.

" Maktoum got involved in racing in the 1970s and he took on all the big stables like Oppenheimer, Sangsters and the Aga Khan's. He surpassed them.

"He pumped a lot of money into it, he's very hands on and the success this has brought is there for everyone to see.

"Maktoum is very competitive - all he wants is to win."[/i]

La bonne nouvelle (relative pour l'instant, on verra la suite si ça se fait), c'est que le gars qui gère ça pour Al Maktoum et DIC, Al Ansari, est un fan des Reds comme nous. Ok, ça ne garantit rien, mais ça peut aider.

C'est legerement rassurant, mais je ne veux pas qu'il fasse une équipe "pour lui" comme le russkov de Londres

J'aimerais qu'il soit très proche des supporters c'est l'une des conditions majeures pour qu'il réussisse chez nous, en esperant qu'il le sera